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Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
07-15-2014, 08:28 PM
Post: #916
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
Anvanaar, this is a well-known issue covered earlier in the thread. Unless you are using the very latest revisions -- 0.9.8-r1593 or later -- you must use Framebuffers to Memory. Buffered Rendering will not work until r1593 or later.

If you are recording movies as anything more than a curiosity, you need to go back farther, to 0.9.8-r1180 or before. There is an unresolved issue causing some attacks to be more transparent than they should be in Buffered Rendering.

Also, I hear rumors that PPSSPP's PRO Online works for Dissidia 012 now.

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07-16-2014, 04:41 AM
Post: #917
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
Unresolved as in, even in the latest version? Which attacks? Can you capture it with the GE debugger? I guess it could be blending (Settings tab.)

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07-16-2014, 02:14 PM
Post: #918
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
It is unresolved in r1610. I haven't tested r1618 yet.

I noticed it with the Emperor's Flares and Thunder Crest and Chaos's small fireballs on the eternally problematic Edge of Madness stage, where it is most obvious, but it applies to all "fireball"-type attacks and EX cores on all stages. A direct before-and-after picture will only help so much because those same attacks were previously overbright in buffered rendering on Edge of Madness and only correct in Framebuffers to Memory mode. I heard that may have been related to my graphics card but if I had a rig with a fancy graphics card I wouldn't use this four-year-old laptop.

I don't know what you mean by "blending". I can't find an option that sounds remotely similar in r1610 64-bit; was it added between r1610 and r1618?

I'll have to look up how to acquire and use the GE debugger when I'm not on the way to work.

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07-17-2014, 01:37 AM
Post: #919
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
Blending is a feature of the PSP's GPU. It actually supports a lot more complicated blending modes than OpenGL for example supports even on modern powerful desktops. We have to emulate its blending modes and it might be that we're doing it wrong. Or it could be a block transfer we're missing.

So, it's not an option, but within the GE debugger (on the Settings tab), you can see blending.

The GE debugger is a feature of Windows builds, under the Debug menu. Here's a brief tutorial:
https://github.com/hrydgard/ppsspp/wiki/...E-debugger

Also, a screenshot comparison of a correct EX core and the EX core you see would be helpful. I guess I have not looked closely at those. Do you know if this problem also applies to Dissidia (the original one)?

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07-17-2014, 02:13 AM (This post was last modified: 07-17-2014 02:14 AM by tintinmayo.)
Post: #920
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
(07-17-2014 01:37 AM)[Unknown] Wrote:  Blending is a feature of the PSP's GPU. It actually supports a lot more complicated blending modes than OpenGL for example supports even on modern powerful desktops. We have to emulate its blending modes and it might be that we're doing it wrong. Or it could be a block transfer we're missing.

So, it's not an option, but within the GE debugger (on the Settings tab), you can see blending.

The GE debugger is a feature of Windows builds, under the Debug menu. Here's a brief tutorial:
https://github.com/hrydgard/ppsspp/wiki/...E-debugger

Also, a screenshot comparison of a correct EX core and the EX core you see would be helpful. I guess I have not looked closely at those. Do you know if this problem also applies to Dissidia (the original one)?

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Sorry to hijack the thread a little bit, but the problem with the EX cores in Dissidia might be the same problem that crept up in Tenkaichi Tag Team, where the beam attacks became more transparent a few builds back. This post has a screenshot of the problem.

For comparison, screenshots from a real PSP show that the attacks are more opaque.

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07-18-2014, 02:29 AM
Post: #921
Dissidia 012 Duodecim Final Fantasy
In beginning of the game you choose the bonus day, however the time is frozen. I choose Saturday but it froze at Wednesday even if I changed the bonus day to Wednesday, 7 days must pass for bonus day to work.

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07-18-2014, 11:30 PM (This post was last modified: 07-18-2014 11:47 PM by Sarisa81.)
Post: #922
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
I used the GE debugger to take down the recommended information for the new over-transparency on Flare, Thunder Crest, and EX cores. (Other attacks are over-transparent too but I hope that will be a large enough sample.) These were all using r1646.

I added pictures of those attacks on that stage from Youtube videos transcoded from videos made with the replay to AVI function.

If you need more information, I can gather it.


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.7z  core.7z (Size: 527.43 KB / Downloads: 328)

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07-21-2014, 01:02 PM
Post: #923
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
(07-18-2014 02:29 AM)Qazs99 Wrote:  In beginning of the game you choose the bonus day, however the time is frozen. I choose Saturday but it froze at Wednesday even if I changed the bonus day to Wednesday, 7 days must pass for bonus day to work.

Any help?

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07-30-2014, 07:33 PM
Post: #924
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
Hey guys. I tried online with a friend using the same method as other multiplayer games, Evolve, Hamachi etc. However this doesn't seem to want to co-operate. In the Adhoc server cmd I can clearly see we are joing the online lobby fine and the group lobby but none of us will show up to each other.
Just an observation

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07-31-2014, 05:01 PM
Post: #925
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
(07-30-2014 07:33 PM)Armyboy0894 Wrote:  Hey guys. I tried online with a friend using the same method as other multiplayer games, Evolve, Hamachi etc. However this doesn't seem to want to co-operate. In the Adhoc server cmd I can clearly see we are joing the online lobby fine and the group lobby but none of us will show up to each other.
Just an observation
The multiplayer works. I've used it myself. But you have to use AdamN's special build in the multiplayer section. There are some changes he had to make the other week for Duodecim to work that haven't been merged into the main branch yet.

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08-01-2014, 12:28 PM
Post: #926
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
I have an issue with the new version of PPSSPP that the earlier version did not : the world map in story mode.

Each time I need to go on the world map, the app crashes on the loading screen wether it's on my PC or iOS (on iOS tough, it sometimes just have the loading screen going on forever, not freezed 'cause it's still animated)

Does anyone know how to fix it ?
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08-01-2014, 07:59 PM
Post: #927
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
Someone want to play online with me, I have european version and I use coldbird server if you want to play with me please send me a PM before(private message)
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08-03-2014, 04:27 PM
Post: #928
Cannot proceed in Final Fantasy Dissidia 012 Duodecim
Yeah, even with software rendering I can't go anywhere now. Once you try to select the first mission (after the prologue mission 0) it just goes white and won't go further.

Seems to not matter what I do, it won't budge.

I think this game needs a look-see by the devs. Seems to be a pretty problematic game for 0.9.9, I got some odd bugs before this roadblock too.
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08-03-2014, 04:59 PM (This post was last modified: 08-03-2014 04:59 PM by vnctdj.)
Post: #929
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
Merged.

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08-03-2014, 05:01 PM (This post was last modified: 08-03-2014 05:01 PM by solarmystic.)
Post: #930
RE: Dissidia 012: Duodecim Final Fantasy
(08-03-2014 04:27 PM)-Alexander- Wrote:  Yeah, even with software rendering I can't go anywhere now. Once you try to select the first mission (after the prologue mission 0) it just goes white and won't go further.

Seems to not matter what I do, it won't budge.

I think this game needs a look-see by the devs. Seems to be a pretty problematic game for 0.9.9, I got some odd bugs before this roadblock too.

I think the issue is on your end, I've got no issues with selecting the first mission and playing it:-

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