I find it weird that....(something about emulators)

[mckimiaklopa]

I find it weird that emulation on My android phone tend to be as fast if not faster than the emulation on my netbook.On some cases,it might be the fault of the emulator available on my netbook,but for multiplatform emus,the difference can be seen.

Specs:

Phone:CM BLAZE(Ming Ren A2)
Jelly bean 4.1.2
Mt6577 chipset
512 mb ram
Dual core 1ghz cortex A9
Powervr Sgx 531

Netbook:Acer aspire one D250
Windows 7
1 GB Ram
intel atom n270 1.6 ghz with Hyperthreading
Intel GMA 950

Here are some instances

DS

Netbook:
Desmume
slow(probably because of the emu available)
Phone:
Drastic
Fast

GBA(through VBA)

Netbook:Faster than desmume but still a bit slow
Phone:A bit faster than netbook

PSX(EPSXE)

Netbook:
Software-100% with small amt. of frameskip
OpenGl-100%with fair amt. frameskip

Phone:
Software-100% with slight amt of frameskip(frameskip not needed when using other emus)
OpenGL-Lags on many occassions plus has lots of graphic bugs for many games but has 100% with small to fair amt. of frameskip

N64(Mupen64plus)

Netbook:full speed with frameskip
Phone:Faster ,less frame skip needed

and lastly


PSP(PPSSPP)
netbook(using the build found in Here:

full speed for other games,needs frameskip plus lags on many occasions

Phone(using the normal version of the above build):

nearly the same above plus:
a.faster(may not be noticeable on other games)
B.needs less frameskip
C.Lags are more tolerable


Phone(using latest build):
Much much faster,less frameskip needed although lagging can still be found


Additionally,I have pcsx2 on my netbook for no apparent reason.I tested the opening of FFX and it was less than 10 fps.Following the same logic,assuming that pcsx2 has been ported to android phones,the same scene will have 10-15 fps on my phone but of course,thats absolute quackery.

[Raimoo]

Are you comparing your devices performance using the emulators u used?

Laptop and ultrabook are much better compare to netbook tho.

Smartphone doesnt need a graphic card to run app, which is why some emulator can run faster because its an app.

[globe94]

* bro, do u mean Cherry Mobile is faster than your netbook?
* then that means..

* Cherry Mobile Rocks !
* haha..
* just kidding,


* have u read this? http://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=5838

[mckimiaklopa]

(01-01-2014 07:03 AM)globe94 Wrote:  * bro, do u mean Cherry Mobile is faster than your netbook?
* then that means..

* Cherry Mobile Rocks !
* haha..
* just kidding,


* have u read this? http://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=5838

I know right?Thats what makes it ultra weird

About the link you posted,I'm aware that PPSSPP crashes on my netbook when using ordinary builds since it does not support OpenGL 2.0 properly,thats why I use the Angle version of ppsspp in order for my netbook to be able to play psp games

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(01-01-2014 06:47 AM)Raimoo Wrote:  Are you comparing your devices performance using the emulators u used?

Laptop and ultrabook are much better compare to netbook tho.

Smartphone doesnt need a graphic card to run app, which is why some emulator can run faster because its an app.

yah,I compared their performance using EPSXE,VBA and PPSSPP.
Your last sentence holds true for most emulators for android but PPSSPP greatly relies on both CPU an GPU(graphics) for both android phones and PC's

[thedicemaster]

windows isn't designed for energy efficient processors like the atom, so it leaves a lot less cpu power to programs running on a netbook.
architecture also matters, gba and nds are arm based like most modern phones making emulation easier.

some mobile emulators are also build for speed, while the pc emulators are aimed at accuracy.

[Henrik]

Seems to be that the whole issue is that your netbook has terrible/nonexistent OpenGL support, while your phone has okay OpenGL ES support. Not too surprising.

[fivefeet8]

(01-01-2014 06:11 AM)mckimiaklopa Wrote:  DS

Netbook:
Desmume
slow(probably because of the emu available)
Phone:
Drastic
Fast

Desmume and Drastic are vastly different emulators even though they both use software rendering. If you run Desmume through Retroarch on Android, it's also very slow. But I still agree with your point about emulators on Android being faster than your netbook.

Netbooks are very limited and only really useful for mostly web browsing and not much else especially anything graphically intensive.

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(01-01-2014 06:47 AM)Raimoo Wrote:  Smartphone doesnt need a graphic card to run app, which is why some emulator can run faster because its an app.

All modern phones have some type of video subsystem on the chip. Much in the same vein as integrated video cards exists on desktop/laptop systems. If phones didn't, then everything would run in software and we wouldn't get OpenGLes for PPSSPP.

The technologies in modern phones and desktop/laptop computing are not as divergent. In fact, Nvidia's next Tegra5 mobile chip is basically their current generation video card on desktops.