manually port forwarding for my router

[midosan]

i tried port forwarding manually since my friend said my ports are blocked
but my router requires 4 stuff to fill in

internal IP Address, LAN port, WAN port then tcp udp or both

im not sure what to put and i dont see any guide for it or im dumb and not sure what to exactly search

my router is called Tenda and when i check for videos about it its very old version of it and not same as mine

the game im playing is monster hunter 3rd portable, when i join lobby it works fine and i see others and i can play with one person but if its 2+ players then it breaks off but for them they are together

i tried DMZ and disabling my firewall but its still the same so idk what to do

[AdamN]

Different games uses different ports, which will also be different depends on the Port Offset value, so manually port-forwarding can be tricky for most people (unless they already familiar with the ports used by the game).

If even DMZ doesn't works for you, that mean your ISP is blocking the port, thus manually port-forwarding nor UPnP won't work either.
The only solution for ports being blocked by ISP is by using VPN.

However, since you're able to play with one other player successfully, that means both of you doesn't have blocked-port issue.
There might be some other issue, probably the 3rd player had issue, unless if that 3rd player were able to play the same game successfully too with another player.

For example:
1) P1 <--> P2 = worked ==> no technical issue
2) P1 <--> P2 <--> P3 = broken ==> issue on P3
3) P2 <--> P3 = worked ==> the route between P1 to/from P3 might be bad, where the route are depends on the ISP if you're not using VPN, and depends on the VPN & ISP if you're using one.

PS: There is also an issue where multiplayer with more than 2 players doesn't work well when using a certain VPN on some games, but since you're talking about port-forwarding, i assume you're not using any VPN (since VPN doesn't need port-forwarding)

[midosan]

(03-20-2022 05:44 AM)AdamN Wrote:  Different games uses different ports, which will also be different depends on the Port Offset value, so manually port-forwarding can be tricky for most people (unless they already familiar with the ports used by the game).

If even DMZ doesn't works for you, that mean your ISP is blocking the port, thus manually port-forwarding nor UPnP won't work either.
The only solution for ports being blocked by ISP is by using VPN.

However, since you're able to play with one other player successfully, that means both of you doesn't have blocked-port issue.
There might be some other issue, probably the 3rd player had issue, unless if that 3rd player were able to play the same game successfully too with another player.

For example:
1) P1 <--> P2 = worked ==> no technical issue
2) P1 <--> P2 <--> P3 = broken ==> issue on P3
3) P2 <--> P3 = worked ==> the route between P1 to/from P3 might be bad, where the route are depends on the ISP if you're not using VPN, and depends on the VPN & ISP if you're using one.

PS: There is also an issue where multiplayer with more than 2 players doesn't work well when using a certain VPN on some games, but since you're talking about port-forwarding, i assume you're not using any VPN (since VPN doesn't need port-forwarding)

my friend said that me and the other person have ports blocked but only one person with ports blocked can join the person with open ports also i can't pick a quest aka be the host even if there is just me and 1 person and that person has open ports or blocked ports

example
1P and 2P has blocked ports, 3P 4P 5P has open ports, H means Host aka they chose the quest

1P - 3PH = Works
3P - 1PH = Broken
1P - 2P - 3PH = Disconnects 1 of blocked ports Ppl from the party and then it works with the remaining
1P - 3PH - 4P - 5P = works as long as there is just 1 blocked ports person it works (my friend said this)

the first 3 example we tried but 4th we couldn't try bc we couldn't find more ppl with open ports to test

which VPN do u recommended since u said certain VPN only works with 2 people

i will try VPN and see if it works or not then I'll reply here about it

[AdamN]

I forgot which VPN that has issue, but i remembered the game was Phantasy Star Portable 2

Anyway, most adhoc games need open ports on all the players since adhoc worked like P2P regardless who the host was, unlike online PC games where all Client players will communicate through the Server/Host Player instead of Client to Client.

For example, most adhoc games will do this during gameplay, if there are 4 Players (regardless who the host)
1P will send/receive data to/from 2P, 3P, 4P
2P will send/receive data to/from 1P, 3P, 4P
3P will send/receive data to/from 1P, 2P, 4P
4P will send/receive data to/from 1P, 2P, 3P

And in order to be able to receive data, that player must have open port, so if both side have blocked port, both won't be able to communicate properly.

[midosan]

(03-20-2022 04:16 PM)AdamN Wrote:  I forgot which VPN that has issue, but i remembered the game was Phantasy Star Portable 2

Anyway, most adhoc games need open ports on all the players since adhoc worked like P2P regardless who the host was, unlike online PC games where all Client players will communicate through the Server/Host Player instead of Client to Client.

For example, most adhoc games will do this during gameplay, if there are 4 Players (regardless who the host)
1P will send/receive data to/from 2P, 3P, 4P
2P will send/receive data to/from 1P, 3P, 4P
3P will send/receive data to/from 1P, 2P, 4P
4P will send/receive data to/from 1P, 2P, 3P

And in order to be able to receive data, that player must have open port, so if both side have blocked port, both won't be able to communicate properly.

sry for the late reply

i tried to use vpn but i cant see anyone in the lobby even tho they are in there so i cant test it out if it works with vpn or not

is there a way to fix it so i can see others in lobby?

[AdamN]

What VPN did you use?

Playing over VPN is similar to playing on LAN, you can't use public adhoc servers like socom.cc or sushicat, so you need to use built-in adhoc server and connects to the adhoc server using VPN IP, this includes the one enabling the built-in adhoc server (ie. don't use localhost)

You can try following the guide at wiki https://github.com/hrydgard/ppsspp/wiki/...ith-PPSSPP

You can also ask in official PPSSPP Discord server (channel #multiplayer-adhoc) https://discord.com/channels/29331614147...1437818880
Some people in the channel said they can use Warp 1.1.1.1 VPN to connects to public adhoc server, but doesn't work on all games

[midosan]

(03-27-2022 05:56 PM)AdamN Wrote:  What VPN did you use?

Playing over VPN is similar to playing on LAN, you can't use public adhoc servers like socom.cc or sushicat, so you need to use built-in adhoc server and connects to the adhoc server using VPN IP, this includes the one enabling the built-in adhoc server (ie. don't use localhost)

You can try following the guide at wiki https://github.com/hrydgard/ppsspp/wiki/...ith-PPSSPP

You can also ask in official PPSSPP Discord server (channel #multiplayer-adhoc) https://discord.com/channels/29331614147...1437818880
Some people in the channel said they can use Warp 1.1.1.1 VPN to connects to public adhoc server, but doesn't work on all games

i used ProtonVPN since i can't buy any VPN but I'll try 1.1.1.1 and the guide and see if i can make it work

[midosan]

(03-27-2022 05:56 PM)AdamN Wrote:  What VPN did you use?

Playing over VPN is similar to playing on LAN, you can't use public adhoc servers like socom.cc or sushicat, so you need to use built-in adhoc server and connects to the adhoc server using VPN IP, this includes the one enabling the built-in adhoc server (ie. don't use localhost)

You can try following the guide at wiki https://github.com/hrydgard/ppsspp/wiki/...ith-PPSSPP

You can also ask in official PPSSPP Discord server (channel #multiplayer-adhoc) https://discord.com/channels/29331614147...1437818880
Some people in the channel said they can use Warp 1.1.1.1 VPN to connects to public adhoc server, but doesn't work on all games

when i use WARP and open the game it says unable to find UPNP Device but when i close it, it doesnt say that

[AdamN]

Because most VPN doesn't have UPnP nor need port-forwarding feature (ie. UPnP, DMZ, etc.) either.

[DeLeo_77]

You must be Mody xD
Google Port forward and the model of your router. You might get a result from the manufacturer's website or call your internet provider, they can help you forwarding the ports.