[Tutorial] How to play on Black-seraph.com (formerly coldbird.net)

[lumune]

(12-04-2015 08:28 PM)ltsaaron Wrote:  Greetings,
I am not certain if this is the right place to address this, however, I've been trying to play Dissidia Duodecim with someone, we make use of Coldbird and both have the right emulator settings and DMZ enabled.
We can get online just fine, but once in the lobby, my friend is unable to see me, while I can see him, challenging him won't do anything, the same goes for group battle, except when I join his room, then it'll try to start a battle, and that's the only moment where his game will actually recognize me, but it gets stuck while trying to prepare for the battle.
We use the same and latest version of PPSSPP, both of us appear as players in coldbird in dissidia, and use the same settings, and version of the game, we also both have firewall completely disabled to make sure that's not the cause.
Has anyone had this issue before and if so, any idea how to solve it?
Thanks in advance.
(if this is not the right place for this, please point me to the place where it's supposed to be)

I'd say:
1. Recheck if DMZ is enabled, both for you and your friend.
2. Click on Change MAC Address inside PPSSPP Network settings, just to make sure your MAC numbers are different.
3. Recheck if another Firewall isn't blocking your PPSSPP's, like ZoneAlarm or PeerBlock, or a built-in Anti-Virus Firewall, like Avast's. Try copying your PPSSPP emulator folder to another location and re-allowing it in Windows Firewall (check both Local and Private boxes) when asked the first time you attempt to play a game online.
4. Try an earlier build (like v0.9.9.1-1368-g303b92d) instead. It's known MH games got broken on newer builds, it could happen to other games.
5. coldbird.net server sometimes becomes unstable, you can confirm this by leaving the status page (http://pro.coldbird.net) open while hosting a game. Sometimes you'll see your game hosted but a few seconds/minutes later, it'll be gone, and the page may return XML errors as well. Also, if you try to host the game again you may experience a delay while joining/creating a lobby room, this is due to instability. The only way would be to contact coldbird himself to try and fix it.
6. Unstable connection between you and your friends, this could be due to very high ping latency or weak wi-fi signal, or even ongoing repairs in your/your friends ISP.

(12-14-2015 01:36 PM)XxBlackPhantomxX Wrote:  So I did everything as said in the video, and when I start a game I can find it in the Coldbird.net game list, so when I start Dragonballz for an example, I can see that the number of players is increased by 1, but whenever I actually go to the online lobby in the game I don't see anyone, I tried this with many games but none have worked, please help

You're going to need DMZ enabled on your router to be able to play on coldbird.net.
Even without DMZ enabled the status page will still recognize and count you but you won't be able to see any other players. Imagine here in this forum, you'd still be able to post but no one would be able to read it unless you had DMZ enabled, it's basically what's happening to you. if you've enabled DMZ already, then check if your Firewall isn't blocking PPSSPP. Finally, do try playing online using Windows OS, since some games don't work well online with Android yet.
Also, the only DBZ game which works online is DBZ Tenkaichi Tag Team, the Budokai games don't work online on PPSSPP emulator as of now.

(12-28-2015 05:17 AM)pansbray Wrote:  hi there, i did everything as said in video, i'm playing MHP3rd i check online user in pro.coldbird.net end see the page source its say there is 2 player play in GH1 so im join to GH1, in pro.coldbird.net status i see my username (pansbray) with other player username in same room but i cant see other player there

(05-04-2016 12:35 AM)XxAleckxX Wrote:  Maybe because im trying to port forward mhp3rd and I cant join any room because its full but thats a sign that port forward works.
Now that i figured it out i can now join a room you just need to change the protocol to UDP but still cant see people
but im trying this experiment to test port forwarding instead of dmz

You probably don't have DMZ enabled in your router, it's required to play on coldbird.net, or else you won't be able to see any other players, even if the status page does recognize you. If you do, however, maybe the other players are trying to play without DMZ and so they're getting recognized, when in fact they're with DMZ disabled, meaning there's actually no one online there, something similar to GHOSTS.

Also, if you're playing MH games online, please use this version:
Android: http://buildbot.orphis.net/ppsspp/index....rm=android
Windows: http://buildbot.orphis.net/ppsspp/index....indows-x86

Versions above this one introduced a bug where all the Gathering Halls will be full even when they're empty. As far as i know, still isn't fixed to date, so please use this old version just for playing MH games online without any problems (don't forget to disable the "Fast Memory" option inside PPSSPP's Settings>System as well!).

(02-13-2016 10:08 PM)PBNJAAM Wrote:  that first thumbnail how do you get to that?
and noone seems to want to help me out hopefully you can, hope to hear from you?

http://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=16739

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For Gundam vs Gundam Next Plus online please use ONLY this version, it was fixed by user onelight:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oxatxja446ikh8...S.zip?dl=1
This game will only work online with this version. Also, if the game becomes slow online, it's because of high ping latency.

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I've been away for long.
I'm noticing as of late coldbird.net is becoming really unstable, the server is losing connection every 5 minutes or so and the server status page is unstable as well, resetting all ongoing games in a short interval.
Also, if you try rehosting them, sometimes they get stuck forever on connection to the server, it's really unstable, not sure what's going on but it would be best to have a say with coldbird himself (http://coldbird.net) or (http://forum.coldbird.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2175) about these issues and politely ask him to try fixing them.

[XxAleckxX]

Thanks lumune but can other ppsspp version connects? Like 1.1 connects to 2.2
I can multiplayer with 1.2.2.0 or the latest 1.2.2.0 development builds with my friend
via Portable hotspot

[XxAleckxX]

(05-04-2016 05:12 PM)lumune Wrote:  

(12-04-2015 08:28 PM)ltsaaron Wrote:  Greetings,
I am not certain if this is the right place to address this, however, I've been trying to play Dissidia Duodecim with someone, we make use of Coldbird and both have the right emulator settings and DMZ enabled.
We can get online just fine, but once in the lobby, my friend is unable to see me, while I can see him, challenging him won't do anything, the same goes for group battle, except when I join his room, then it'll try to start a battle, and that's the only moment where his game will actually recognize me, but it gets stuck while trying to prepare for the battle.
We use the same and latest version of PPSSPP, both of us appear as players in coldbird in dissidia, and use the same settings, and version of the game, we also both have firewall completely disabled to make sure that's not the cause.
Has anyone had this issue before and if so, any idea how to solve it?
Thanks in advance.
(if this is not the right place for this, please point me to the place where it's supposed to be)

I'd say:
1. Recheck if DMZ is enabled, both for you and your friend.
2. Click on Change MAC Address inside PPSSPP Network settings, just to make sure your MAC numbers are different.
3. Recheck if another Firewall isn't blocking your PPSSPP's, like ZoneAlarm or PeerBlock, or a built-in Anti-Virus Firewall, like Avast's. Try copying your PPSSPP emulator folder to another location and re-allowing it in Windows Firewall (check both Local and Private boxes) when asked the first time you attempt to play a game online.
4. Try an earlier build (like v0.9.9.1-1368-g303b92d) instead. It's known MH games got broken on newer builds, it could happen to other games.
5. coldbird.net server sometimes becomes unstable, you can confirm this by leaving the status page (http://pro.coldbird.net) open while hosting a game. Sometimes you'll see your game hosted but a few seconds/minutes later, it'll be gone, and the page may return XML errors as well. Also, if you try to host the game again you may experience a delay while joining/creating a lobby room, this is due to instability. The only way would be to contact coldbird himself to try and fix it.
6. Unstable connection between you and your friends, this could be due to very high ping latency or weak wi-fi signal, or even ongoing repairs in your/your friends ISP.

(12-14-2015 01:36 PM)XxBlackPhantomxX Wrote:  So I did everything as said in the video, and when I start a game I can find it in the Coldbird.net game list, so when I start Dragonballz for an example, I can see that the number of players is increased by 1, but whenever I actually go to the online lobby in the game I don't see anyone, I tried this with many games but none have worked, please help

You're going to need DMZ enabled on your router to be able to play on coldbird.net.
Even without DMZ enabled the status page will still recognize and count you but you won't be able to see any other players. Imagine here in this forum, you'd still be able to post but no one would be able to read it unless you had DMZ enabled, it's basically what's happening to you. if you've enabled DMZ already, then check if your Firewall isn't blocking PPSSPP. Finally, do try playing online using Windows OS, since some games don't work well online with Android yet.
Also, the only DBZ game which works online is DBZ Tenkaichi Tag Team, the Budokai games don't work online on PPSSPP emulator as of now.

(12-28-2015 05:17 AM)pansbray Wrote:  hi there, i did everything as said in video, i'm playing MHP3rd i check online user in pro.coldbird.net end see the page source its say there is 2 player play in GH1 so im join to GH1, in pro.coldbird.net status i see my username (pansbray) with other player username in same room but i cant see other player there

(05-04-2016 12:35 AM)XxAleckxX Wrote:  Maybe because im trying to port forward mhp3rd and I cant join any room because its full but thats a sign that port forward works.
Now that i figured it out i can now join a room you just need to change the protocol to UDP but still cant see people
but im trying this experiment to test port forwarding instead of dmz

You probably don't have DMZ enabled in your router, it's required to play on coldbird.net, or else you won't be able to see any other players, even if the status page does recognize you. If you do, however, maybe the other players are trying to play without DMZ and so they're getting recognized, when in fact they're with DMZ disabled, meaning there's actually no one online there, something similar to GHOSTS.

Also, if you're playing MH games online, please use this version:
Android: http://buildbot.orphis.net/ppsspp/index....rm=android
Windows 32bit: http://buildbot.orphis.net/ppsspp/index....indows-x86
Windows 64bit: http://buildbot.orphis.net/ppsspp/index....dows-amd64

Versions above this one introduced a bug where all the Gathering Halls will be full even when they're empty. As far as i know, still isn't fixed to date, so please use this old version just for playing MH games online without any problems (don't forget to disable the "Fast Memory" option inside PPSSPP's System>Settings as well!).

(02-13-2016 10:08 PM)PBNJAAM Wrote:  that first thumbnail how do you get to that?
and noone seems to want to help me out hopefully you can, hope to hear from you?

http://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=16739

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

For Gundam vs Gundam Next Plus online please use ONLY this version, it was fixed by user onelight:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vd4o8qz8r0yn27...t.rar?dl=0
This game will only work online with this version. Also, if the game becomes slow online, it's because of high ping latency.

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I've been away for long.
I'm noticing as of late coldbird.net is becoming really unstable, the server is losing connection every 5 minutes or so and the server status page is unstable as well, resetting all ongoing games in a short interval.
Also, if you try rehosting them, sometimes they get stuck forever on connection to the server, it's really unstable, not sure what's going on but it would be best to have a say with coldbird himself (http://coldbird.net) or (http://forum.coldbird.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2175) about these issues and politely ask him to try fixing them.

@lumune can you help me on the aztech DSL5018EN(1T1R) router im from phillipines btw i cant even find it on its settings

[lumune]

(05-04-2016 11:33 PM)XxAleckxX Wrote:  Thanks lumune but can other ppsspp version connects? Like 1.1 connects to 2.2
I can multiplayer with 1.2.2.0 or the latest 1.2.2.0 development builds with my friend
via Portable hotspot

@lumune can you help me on the aztech DSL5018EN(1T1R) router im from phillipines btw i cant even find it on its settings

Yes, different emulator versions can play online together, like v0.9.9 with v1.2.2. The catch is, some games became broken in newer builds (like Monster Hunter series). Also there are builds which broke other games, like the build from onelight that fixed Gundam vs Gundam Next Plus, this build broke DBZ Tenkaichi Tag Team, the game crashes upon battle start.
I'm also talking about Windows versions, some games which work well on Windows builds don't work with Android builds, bear this in mind.
So, in short, trying to play MH games in newer builds will result in all Gathering Halls being full, also instability between players in them. Older versions - like the one i've posted - still didn't have this bug (in fact, i think this is the last MH working build, before the bug was introduced).

Regarding your Router, i'm afraid not, i'd also suggest you to read more about DMZ and what it does before doing anything. DMZ basically opens all your ports to the wide Internet, if you aren't confident about it or don't know how to do it, it's better to use a program like Evolve, bypassing the need of DMZ and using only UPnP. Using Evolve VPN's (Party System) to play. However, this means you'll be able to play with other players using Evolve only, not on coldbird.net, unfortunately.
Good luck.

[XxAleckxX]

(05-05-2016 01:40 PM)lumune Wrote:  

(05-04-2016 11:33 PM)XxAleckxX Wrote:  Thanks lumune but can other ppsspp version connects? Like 1.1 connects to 2.2
I can multiplayer with 1.2.2.0 or the latest 1.2.2.0 development builds with my friend
via Portable hotspot

@lumune can you help me on the aztech DSL5018EN(1T1R) router im from phillipines btw i cant even find it on its settings

Yes, different emulator versions can play online together, like v0.9.9 with v1.2.2. The catch is, some games became broken in newer builds (like Monster Hunter series). Also there are builds which broke other games, like the build from onelight that fixed Gundam vs Gundam Next Plus, this build broke DBZ Tenkaichi Tag Team, the game crashes upon battle start.
I'm also talking about Windows versions, some games which work well on Windows builds don't work with Android builds, bear this in mind.
So, in short, trying to play MH games in newer builds will result in all Gathering Halls being full, also instability between players in them. Older versions - like the one i've posted - still didn't have this bug (in fact, i think this is the last MH working build, before the bug was introduced).

Regarding your Router, i'm afraid not, i'd also suggest you to read more about DMZ and what it does before doing anything. DMZ basically opens all your ports to the wide Internet, if you aren't confident about it or don't know how to do it, it's better to use a program like Evolve, bypassing the need of DMZ and using only UPnP. Using Evolve VPN's (Party System) to play. However, this means you'll be able to play with other players using Evolve only, not on coldbird.net, unfortunately.
Good luck.

But can i connect to evolve i donot have a pc

[lumune]

(05-06-2016 01:55 AM)XxAleckxX Wrote:  But can i connect to evolve i donot have a pc

I'm afraid not. As far as i know, you'll need a Windows OS to be able to install Evolve.

[XxAleckxX]

(05-06-2016 10:12 PM)lumune Wrote:  

(05-06-2016 01:55 AM)XxAleckxX Wrote:  But can i connect to evolve i donot have a pc

I'm afraid not. As far as i know, you'll need a Windows OS to be able to install Evolve.

I have a pc but its windows xp 32 bit but i got grounded for years now because they hid the monitor

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But i heard that evolve is making a mobile client

[ramune]

i want to ask i already use guide and enable DMZ, when i try to online i didnt find any player, i try many game but still didnt find any player, can someone help ?

[TheSorrow]

Can I Port Fowarding Using Mobile Hotspot?
I'm Using Samsung Galaxy J7

[hing4629106]

I am playing mhp3 on coldbird. I can play with others successfully when i am hosting the quest. However, when i join others' quests, it will disconnect when entering the quest, what is the problem? (disconnect when showing the word " starting quest")
I am using PPSSPP 1.2.2, so i don't need to speed down when joining quests right?
Thanks for help!

[XxAleckxX]

(05-20-2016 04:10 AM)TheSorrow Wrote:  Can I Port Fowarding Using Mobile Hotspot?
I'm Using Samsung Galaxy J7

You cant Port Forward when you enable portable hotspot because it cannot make a network while connecting to a network

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(05-20-2016 05:42 AM)hing4629106 Wrote:  I am playing mhp3 on coldbird. I can play with others successfully when i am hosting the quest. However, when i join others' quests, it will disconnect when entering the quest, what is the problem? (disconnect when showing the word " starting quest")
I am using PPSSPP 1.2.2, so i don't need to speed down when joining quests right?
Thanks for help!

if you're playing MH games online, please use this version
Android: http://buildbot.orphis.net/ppsspp/index....rm=android
Windows 32bit: http://buildbot.orphis.net/ppsspp/index....indows-x86
Windows 64bit: http://buildbot.orphis.net/ppsspp/index....dows-amd64

Versions above this one introduced a bug where all the Gathering Halls will be full even when they're empty. As far as i know, still isn't fixed to date, so please use this old version just for playing MH games online without any problems (don't forget to disable the "Fast Memory" option inside PPSSPP's System>Settings as well!)

[Haseeb]

(05-08-2016 01:31 AM)ramune Wrote:  i want to ask i already use guide and enable DMZ, when i try to online i didnt find any player, i try many game but still didnt find any player, can someone help ?

Same problem here. I did everything and now I finally found out the problem no one
mentions here. The problem is our connection's NAT type. It must be Type 2 or Type
1 for you to find the players. Type 3 won't work no matter how much ports you open,
enable DMZ or UPNP. It won't work.

[ESPenri]

I'm trying to use the version of MH but I get error when trying to play online. Can u help me?

[tywald]

(06-13-2016 11:38 AM)ESPenri Wrote:  I'm trying to use the version of MH but I get error when trying to play online. Can u help me?

Can you be more specific? Screenshots helps.

[ErikGamer]

Hi, im trying to play tekken 6 online in coldbird but I don't see anyone in the lobby even when in the server status page shows that there are people there (myself included) I have DMZ enabled and firewall is not blocking anything relates with the emulator, any hints on what should I do?