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ps2 emulator on android
11-13-2013, 06:27 PM (This post was last modified: 11-13-2013 06:32 PM by VIRGIN KLM.)
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(11-13-2013 05:20 PM)heiwasan Wrote:  Hey people, don’t call me stupid or something alike, cause I’m no programmer and I don’t have any knowledge about programming stuff.

But I was thinking other day: If Henrik did a stuff that multiply the PSP resolution, isn’t possible to make the inverse to PS2?

I mean, to low the definition 3 or 4X (or even more)??

If it’s possible, maybe I would demand less power of the CPU. Does it make any sense?

Again, don’t call me stupid! I’m just a normal guy that likes to play games portably!! Wink
While it is possible and it will increase slightly performance on PS2 games (only on hardware though, software rendering does ONLY on the native resolution the game is being programmed to render, not higher, not lower) it won't do wonders at all, plus PS2 game's average resolution is already really low (512x448) decreasing it even more makes stuff way too pixelated and blurry, even text is unreadable. You have to understand the reasons why it's a tough job to emulate PS2 games:

1.The architecture of the console is reaaally far away to our computers, current generation consoles and mobile devices, and when I say really far I mean light years away. This makes it extremely complex to emulate it properly hence very demanding on raw performance. This is about the whole PS2 excluding the GPU, we'll get now to the GPU.

2.PS2's GPU is once again far away from what our typical PCs and mobile devices have as a GPU, from hardware to instructions to APIs it use it's all so much different. Once again we deal with a huge complexion that is on the borderline of being impossible to archieve.

3.Since in the above statements we talk about complexity this means that the way that you will try to emulate with as less resources as possible means that you will try to give up acuracy for performance. Well while this is what all emulators do at one point more or less, PS2's software despise inacuracies and they'll missbehave really bad in the slightest inacuracy you'll have in your code. So you are preety like doomed to create an as acurate emulator as possible or things will fall apart even with a tiny thing.

4.PCSX2 is an opensource (now) emulator that is in existance almost a decade now. That means that it's code is HUGE and it shouldn't be as clean as you'd expect it to be, let alone the fact that it may contain ALOT of badly coded stuff that are not being replaced because it would mean that they'd have to rewrite TONS of stuff.

5.PCSX2 has no ARM JIT. That is something that could take years to write even if you dedicate full work time schedule to it.

6.PCSX2 has no OpenGL renderer (atleast not a non-beta/buggy one). That's as tough and time consuming to write as the above issue.

7.An OpenGL renderer and an ARM JIT for PS2 is already equal to a full rewrite of PCSX2, if you are going to do those two it's like rewriting the whole project.

8.Because of the facts I stated above, people who know how PS2 works and are developers, run away when they hear requests from people to port it, even with an ideal mobile device hardware on hands the amount of work you have to do is insane. To be honest, I don't really see it happening ever unless mobile devices have x86/x64 CPUs and DX support. From the little I know from coding I'd NEVER even attempt to pick the project of doing that.

I'd normaly say, "I'd don't mean to kill your hopes" but in this case I'll say, be realists and realise why this won't happen especialy without the perfect conditions not happening. A ideal super powerfull mobile device that is based on ARM architecture and uses OpenGL is not the answer to your hopes, people wanting a PS2 emulator on mobile devices need a big team of experienced people that will transform themselfs to nolifers to port/write/rewrite an emulator. Do you see it happening now as you were seeing it before?
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