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(03-23-2013 12:12 PM)Dwightyone Wrote:
(03-23-2013 12:00 PM)ppssppikachu Wrote:
(03-23-2013 11:22 AM)Dwightyone Wrote: You'll have to google it, I know how to to basic stuff like reduce/rip PSP files etc...there's hundreds of guides online for that, but when it came to the PMF and audio compression I used to have some friends who used to know their PSP stuff and would do that stuff for themselves and me. It's not as straightforward as ripping/re-linking files in PSP games in a couple of minutes.

I can't even remember which ones (the majority do) have the reduced video/audio quality, as my PSP games are all CSO and just called by their game name.

I haven't played my PSP games in a long time (sold PSP to buy Xperia Play) but after compression of the videos the end result was the videos/audio were nearly as good as the originals (you may not even notice the difference) but with a smalller game size. Like I said, I can't remember which ones are which, but I'll give game examples of what's on my PC right now, they probably could be made even smaller with more re-linking and more ripping, but basically the game is still video/audio intact, everything works, and I'm happy with that.

Burnout = 175MB
Ridge Racer 2 = 206MB
F1 2006 = 306MB
Assassin's Creed Bloodlines = 206MB
Ace Combat X Skies of Deception = 307MB
Medal of Honor Heroes 2 = 377MB
Socom 3 Fireteam Bravo = 463MB
Jak & Dexter The Lost Frontier = 484MB
Resistance Retribution = 522MB
Tomb Raider Anniversary = 1.00GB
Dante's Inferno = 964MB
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker = 1.30GB
The Warriors = 1.19GB
Final Fantasy Crisis Core = 792MB
Silent Hill Shattered Memories = 747MB (I think this is normal video CSO)
Fifa 2012 = 740MB
Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops = 842MB
Fight Night Round 3 = 162MB
Need For Speed Most Wanted = 125MB
Syphon Filter Logan's Shadow = 650MB
Call of Duty Road to Victory = 140MB
Obscure the Aftermath = 579MB
TOCA 3 = 699MB
Silent Hill Origins - 510MB
GTA China Town Wars = 528MB
GTA Liberty Stories = 450MB (But FPS drops alot, uncompress to 1.16GB)
Splinter Cell Essentials = 1.20GB (Can't remember, maybe normal video)
Virtua Tennis World Tour = 370MB (Can't remember, maybe norm video)
Shadow of Destiny = 650MB

Maybe other people have made much smaller again.

My best ever one is a PS1 PSP eboot of Tekken 3 which comes in at 59MB.

my soul calibur is 360mb in cso,you just have to download a iso to cso converter

(03-23-2013 09:25 AM)Vincentmrl Wrote:
(03-23-2013 08:52 AM)Dwightyone Wrote: I own many rips of PSP games. The videos have been ripped out or reduced in quality and size by re-sampling, same with the audio. If the videos/audio etc.. is ripped out it just spoils the game for me. If the videos/audio in my games are re-sampled to a lower quality then I'd rather have that. As a general rule my PSP games are reduced in size by a quarter to a third by re-sampling the video/audio. You could do this with PS2 games and reduce them up to a third in size and then CSO them.

Could you please make a guide about this? It would help us android phone owners with low memory available

GOOGLE iso to cso converter.

I know that

All my games are CSO, the point I'm trying to make is this. Let's say we both have Metal Gear Soild Peace Walker. If you just compress an untouched PSP ISO of this game into a CSO, my same version of that game will be even smaller because mine has lower bitrate PMF videos/audios. The game looks and sounds 90% the same but I save many many many MB, sometimes a few hundred MB. If you have the same game as me in my list measure your CSO compared to mine. The game must have all the videos/audios in place and fully work. And if you have smaller, I want to come to your house and see it with my own eyes.

(03-23-2013 12:02 PM)ppssppikachu Wrote:
(03-23-2013 08:52 AM)Dwightyone Wrote:
(03-23-2013 01:38 AM)ppssppikachu Wrote:
(03-22-2013 09:11 PM)Dwightyone Wrote: Even if it is, I can't really see the point when it comes to mobile devices such as the iphone. The majority of games are massive in size compared to the much smaller files of the N64 (absolutely tiny), the PSX and even the PSP. The first God of War on the PS3 comes in at a whopping 4GB. I'm not even sure that PS2 gaming on a mobile is a great fit anyway.

If people want to play slow games (let's say Silent Hill 2) then that''d be okay, but I'd imagine people want a PS2 emulator to play all the faster fighting, FPS and action adventure titles.
These sort of games tend to demand more hand to eye co-ordination. How on earth are people goiing to be able to control such fast moving games, with their more intricate detailed enviroments, their far higher sprite count, when you have to emulate the full PS2 pad including four shoulder buttons and two analogue sticks whilst your fingers are all over the 4-5 inch screen blocking your view. It's like watching a movie on a watch: pointless.

For tablets and the likes of the up coming Project Shield and Ouya then it's great, but mobile phones... I don't know myself. From a practical viewpoint, unless you're going to play slow moving games with don't have much on screen action then I think PS2 emulation on a mobile phone screen is a console too far.

Maybe it's just me, I'm getting on a bit now. My hand to eye co-ordination, reflexes and responses aren't what they used to be. I find a game chess to be as fast as a COD game these days.

for the control you use blutrol with ps3 or icontrolpad,as for the sprites,just lower the resolution.the game size ...thats another story.

I'm old school. For the record when I say sprites I mean the moving playable character/other characters/enemies/moving objects/anything that moves separately of the background. You can reduce the resolution but you can't change how many of them are on the screen.

We could use bluetooth controllers but like PS2 emulation itself I can't really see the point. For tablets okay but why use a bluetooth pad for a 4-5 inch screen. Aside from the eye squinting we'll be doing with our eyes trying to maneuver the playable character around a tiny screen with all the on screen action going on PS2 games offer, we'll also end up draining the battery empty within thirty minutes with PS2 emulation and a bluetooth pad connected at the same time. Okay, we could plug in the mobile power lead to play but that defeats the purpose. Taking into account the the screen size issue, if we end up needing a bluetooth gamepad and a plug in power point to play them as well, then maybe it would be better to just use a real PS2 console.

for the screen size we use tv-out and google icontrolpad 2 to know what im taliking about.i understand the processing power part but you seem not to know much about mobile peripherals..

You'd still need a cable to connect to the TV, and in your case a pad to bluetooth connect to your phone ( I assume it's a phone), and a plug point for power, what else is there to need to know with regards to mobile peripherals?

Aside from the PS2 OS, it seems you want to emulate the hardware setup of a PS2 ie: a TV, gamepad, powerpoint, cables, and the mobile phone as the PS2 itself. That's okay, maybe for me it would be better buying a PS2 until the Ouya 2 etc... comes out with more processing power etc... and hardware designed more for console style gaming.

You mentioned you understand the processing power part. I'm just saying that if you want to go to those lengths to want to play PS2 games on this generation of mobile devices that may struggle with processing power anyway, then why not just buy a PS2. Maybe it's just me.

its way more portable and who uses wires for tv-out.i know i dont...airplay,reflector app etc.and personally i run ps2 emu on my pc outputted in 1080p on my fullhd 52 inch tv,thats not a problem.This thread talks about posibility from the technical standpoint.

(03-23-2013 12:59 PM)ppssppikachu Wrote:
(03-23-2013 12:12 PM)Dwightyone Wrote:
(03-23-2013 12:00 PM)ppssppikachu Wrote:
(03-23-2013 11:22 AM)Dwightyone Wrote: You'll have to google it, I know how to to basic stuff like reduce/rip PSP files etc...there's hundreds of guides online for that, but when it came to the PMF and audio compression I used to have some friends who used to know their PSP stuff and would do that stuff for themselves and me. It's not as straightforward as ripping/re-linking files in PSP games in a couple of minutes.

I can't even remember which ones (the majority do) have the reduced video/audio quality, as my PSP games are all CSO and just called by their game name.

I haven't played my PSP games in a long time (sold PSP to buy Xperia Play) but after compression of the videos the end result was the videos/audio were nearly as good as the originals (you may not even notice the difference) but with a smalller game size. Like I said, I can't remember which ones are which, but I'll give game examples of what's on my PC right now, they probably could be made even smaller with more re-linking and more ripping, but basically the game is still video/audio intact, everything works, and I'm happy with that.

Burnout = 175MB
Ridge Racer 2 = 206MB
F1 2006 = 306MB
Assassin's Creed Bloodlines = 206MB
Ace Combat X Skies of Deception = 307MB
Medal of Honor Heroes 2 = 377MB
Socom 3 Fireteam Bravo = 463MB
Jak & Dexter The Lost Frontier = 484MB
Resistance Retribution = 522MB
Tomb Raider Anniversary = 1.00GB
Dante's Inferno = 964MB
Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker = 1.30GB
The Warriors = 1.19GB
Final Fantasy Crisis Core = 792MB
Silent Hill Shattered Memories = 747MB (I think this is normal video CSO)
Fifa 2012 = 740MB
Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops = 842MB
Fight Night Round 3 = 162MB
Need For Speed Most Wanted = 125MB
Syphon Filter Logan's Shadow = 650MB
Call of Duty Road to Victory = 140MB
Obscure the Aftermath = 579MB
TOCA 3 = 699MB
Silent Hill Origins - 510MB
GTA China Town Wars = 528MB
GTA Liberty Stories = 450MB (But FPS drops alot, uncompress to 1.16GB)
Splinter Cell Essentials = 1.20GB (Can't remember, maybe normal video)
Virtua Tennis World Tour = 370MB (Can't remember, maybe norm video)
Shadow of Destiny = 650MB

Maybe other people have made much smaller again.

My best ever one is a PS1 PSP eboot of Tekken 3 which comes in at 59MB.

my soul calibur is 360mb in cso,you just have to download a iso to cso converter

(03-23-2013 09:25 AM)Vincentmrl Wrote:
(03-23-2013 08:52 AM)Dwightyone Wrote: I own many rips of PSP games. The videos have been ripped out or reduced in quality and size by re-sampling, same with the audio. If the videos/audio etc.. is ripped out it just spoils the game for me. If the videos/audio in my games are re-sampled to a lower quality then I'd rather have that. As a general rule my PSP games are reduced in size by a quarter to a third by re-sampling the video/audio. You could do this with PS2 games and reduce them up to a third in size and then CSO them.

Could you please make a guide about this? It would help us android phone owners with low memory available

GOOGLE iso to cso converter.

I know that

All my games are CSO, the point I'm trying to make is this. Let's say we both have Metal Gear Soild Peace Walker. If you just compress an untouched PSP ISO of this game into a CSO, my same version of that game will be even smaller because mine has lower bitrate PMF videos/audios. The game looks and sounds 90% the same but I save many many many MB, sometimes a few hundred MB. If you have the same game as me in my list measure your CSO compared to mine. The game must have all the videos/audios in place and fully work. And if you have smaller, I want to come to your house and see it with my own eyes.

(03-23-2013 12:02 PM)ppssppikachu Wrote:
(03-23-2013 08:52 AM)Dwightyone Wrote:
(03-23-2013 01:38 AM)ppssppikachu Wrote: for the control you use blutrol with ps3 or icontrolpad,as for the sprites,just lower the resolution.the game size ...thats another story.

I'm old school. For the record when I say sprites I mean the moving playable character/other characters/enemies/moving objects/anything that moves separately of the background. You can reduce the resolution but you can't change how many of them are on the screen.

We could use bluetooth controllers but like PS2 emulation itself I can't really see the point. For tablets okay but why use a bluetooth pad for a 4-5 inch screen. Aside from the eye squinting we'll be doing with our eyes trying to maneuver the playable character around a tiny screen with all the on screen action going on PS2 games offer, we'll also end up draining the battery empty within thirty minutes with PS2 emulation and a bluetooth pad connected at the same time. Okay, we could plug in the mobile power lead to play but that defeats the purpose. Taking into account the the screen size issue, if we end up needing a bluetooth gamepad and a plug in power point to play them as well, then maybe it would be better to just use a real PS2 console.

for the screen size we use tv-out and google icontrolpad 2 to know what im taliking about.i understand the processing power part but you seem not to know much about mobile peripherals..

You'd still need a cable to connect to the TV, and in your case a pad to bluetooth connect to your phone ( I assume it's a phone), and a plug point for power, what else is there to need to know with regards to mobile peripherals?

Aside from the PS2 OS, it seems you want to emulate the hardware setup of a PS2 ie: a TV, gamepad, powerpoint, cables, and the mobile phone as the PS2 itself. That's okay, maybe for me it would be better buying a PS2 until the Ouya 2 etc... comes out with more processing power etc... and hardware designed more for console style gaming.

You mentioned you understand the processing power part. I'm just saying that if you want to go to those lengths to want to play PS2 games on this generation of mobile devices that may struggle with processing power anyway, then why not just buy a PS2. Maybe it's just me.

its way more portable and who uses wires for tv-out.i know i dont...airplay,reflector app etc.and personally i run ps2 emu on my pc outputted in 1080p on my fullhd 52 inch tv,thats not a problem.This thread talks about posibility from the technical standpoint.

Dont worry ,i can compress to any filesize you get unless you use voodoo /witchcraft Tongue