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Questions about "paused when minimized" function
07-21-2014, 01:49 AM (This post was last modified: 07-21-2014 01:56 AM by barbanium.)
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Questions about "paused when minimized" function
Hello! Angel

Earlier today, I've decided I should switch from v0.9.8-1374 I'm using to the newest build version. At that time, the newest was v0.9.8-1671 so that's the one I downloaded.

After I loaded MHFU, I had to minimize PPSSPP to see in Tunngle whose IP I have to copy ('cause I play multiplayer Wink) and to my surprise, my game paused.

I have to ask a Tunngle friend to see if my character is moving while PPSSPP is minimized to see if it's really paused.

My train of questions now are:
  • Will pausing PPSSPP cause sync issues when playing in multilayer? Like for example: if ever it got accidentally minimized and paused while playing multiplayer RIGHT BEFORE a monster attack, am I going to resume BEFORE I will get hit or AFTER I'm already hit? Also, will that reflect on the other players' screens?
  • If pausing affects multiplayer, is there a way to disable that "paused when minimized" function on newer builds? I went to settings for a brief moment and didn't really see any such. Maybe I missed something?
  • If it can't be disabled, could anyone tell me the newest but stable build in which this function was still disabled? If it's not too much to ask, I prefer the build without "errors" or "typos" in it.
Pwease and thank you! Big Grin

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07-21-2014, 02:20 AM (This post was last modified: 07-21-2014 02:57 AM by TheDax.)
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RE: Questions about "paused when minimized" function
1. Since it pauses as if you chose Emulation -> Pause, I would guess it'd be resuming just before you got hit, so you'd likely be taking damage immediately after restoring the window. You'd probably be disconnected from the others if it stayed minimised for too long, of course (depends on how tolerant the game is on allowing for "dropped packets" (that's probably how your friends' games would see you while minimised, standing there doing nothing, like in MMORPGs or other online games, you'll see somebody who disconnected just standing there, or running in the same direction they were previously, since the server assumes they're still doing the same thing)).

2. No, unfortunately, it's forced on all platforms, with no way to turn it off. I opened a pull request almost a month ago to allow it to be disabled, but we're still deliberating over it.

3. It's not an error or a typo, it was added on purpose to stop Intel GPUs from crashing when minimising the window. v0.9.8-1509-gc0e6f26 is the last build before it was added by xsacha.

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07-21-2014, 03:16 AM (This post was last modified: 07-21-2014 03:21 AM by barbanium.)
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RE: Questions about "paused when minimized" function
1) So it does de-sync me from the rest. Sad

I was hoping you'd say that when I resume, I'm already hit.
'Cause I'm pretty sure that's what they'll see on their screens. That way, I'm still in-sync.

2) Please make it optional. Some people don't want it, some people do. So to compromise, a way to toggle it is the way to go! Wink

3) You misunderstood me. I'm not saying the function is an error nor a typo.
I was just asking anyone what was the newest build before you guys implemented this function so I can use that. If possible, the newest build that's stable and without errors nor typos. (again, not referring to that function)

For instance, from testing it a long time ago, v0.9.8-1232 made the sunlight in MHFU colored like a rainbow. A newer build with a fix was released before I could report it.

Anyway, I don't want a build that has an error like that. Tongue

Since you're here, maybe you can tell me what it is. Big Grin

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07-21-2014, 03:53 AM (This post was last modified: 07-21-2014 03:53 AM by TheDax.)
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RE: Questions about "paused when minimized" function
I already did, see point 3 in my previous reply. Smile

I don't know how bug free it is with MHFU though.

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07-21-2014, 03:19 PM (This post was last modified: 07-21-2014 04:30 PM by barbanium.)
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RE: Questions about "paused when minimized" function
Oh, it wasn't there before you edited it. I'm a slow typer, you edited it before I could post my reply. Tongue

In any case, TYVM! Big Grin

EDIT: v0.9.8-1509 still pauses when minimized. Confused

ANOTHER EDIT: Nevermind, v0.9.8-1686 set the "paused when minimized" function's default at false.

My question now is: Can we toggle this in UI instead of just changing it in "ppsspp.ini" to "True?"

I want it to be always at false but, you know, not everyone has the same preference as me! Big Grin

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07-21-2014, 04:54 PM
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RE: Questions about "paused when minimized" function
No, there's no UI option for it. I was hesitant to add one because Henrik and [Unknown] don't like clutter.

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07-21-2014, 06:03 PM
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RE: Questions about "paused when minimized" function
False is the default going forward. I'll consider adding UI later... maybe.
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07-21-2014, 07:36 PM
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RE: Questions about "paused when minimized" function
Kk! Up to you guys. Smile

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