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Svejk · 03-21-2014, 03:33 PM

Hi everyone,
I'm new here, but was really hoping to see if I can get help on getting this game to run smoothly on my Galaxy S4.
So far, it loads up great, plays the intro movie fine, but when the actual character models and such show for the first time (a festival of some sort), the game kinda stutters. There's no noticeable glitches otherwise.
I'm running ppsspp with default settings. There's all sorts of "(speedup)" options to select, however, none seem to make any difference when rebooting (the emulator, not phone).

Any suggestions at all? If there are any particular screenshots needed in order to diagnose, I can provide.

Thanks again in advance!

**[Unknown]** · 03-21-2014, 07:32 PM

Unfortunately, the current method of dealing with the way the characters are drawn is not extremely fast. There's probably not much but frameskipping that can help.

Another method of dealing with what the game is doing may be possible but it definitely won't work everywhere and may cause other glitches.

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chitnhau · 03-23-2014, 05:41 AM

so far i know, games are running smoothly on pc, not on phone/tablet Sad

zid10 · 03-23-2014, 10:29 AM

Hi there, im running the game Jeanne D'Arc in ppsspp with my galaxy note 2 and the sprite of the characters are all missing.. only a shadow shows there is a character standing there..

Can anyone help pls??

Thanks

solarmystic · 03-23-2014, 11:17 AM

There's already a thread here:-
http://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=1237

And to answer your question, your device doesn't support OpenGL ES 3, which is required to fix the missing characters issue. The fix involves blitting, which is only supported by OpenGL 3.x/GL ES 3.0 at the moment.

Play it on a device/PC which supports the API, otherwise you're out of luck.

**vnctdj** · 03-23-2014, 12:58 PM

Merged.

Homo87 · 03-23-2014, 09:08 PM

So.... we won't be able to play some games just because our "older"phones doesnt support OpenGL ES3? Cause ive got Galaxy S3 :/

chitnhau · 03-24-2014, 06:39 AM

(03-23-2014 11:17 AM)solarmystic Wrote: And to answer your question, your device doesn't support OpenGL ES 3, which is required to fix the missing characters issue. The fix involves blitting, which is only supported by OpenGL 3.x/GL ES 3.0 at the moment.

Play it on a device/PC which supports the API, otherwise you're out of luck.

my tablet has opengl 3 but it doesnt help, still invisible chars

solarmystic · (This post was last modified: 03-24-2014 06:50 AM by solarmystic.)

(03-24-2014 06:39 AM)chitnhau Wrote:
(03-23-2014 11:17 AM)solarmystic Wrote: And to answer your question, your device doesn't support OpenGL ES 3, which is required to fix the missing characters issue. The fix involves blitting, which is only supported by OpenGL 3.x/GL ES 3.0 at the moment.

Play it on a device/PC which supports the API, otherwise you're out of luck.

my tablet has opengl 3 but it doesnt help, still invisible chars

I think your tablet's drivers need to expose the functionality to the emulator as well, otherwise it wouldn't work too. What tablet did you test it on?

chitnhau · 03-26-2014, 06:06 AM

(03-24-2014 06:50 AM)solarmystic Wrote:
(03-24-2014 06:39 AM)chitnhau Wrote:
(03-23-2014 11:17 AM)solarmystic Wrote: And to answer your question, your device doesn't support OpenGL ES 3, which is required to fix the missing characters issue. The fix involves blitting, which is only supported by OpenGL 3.x/GL ES 3.0 at the moment.

Play it on a device/PC which supports the API, otherwise you're out of luck.

my tablet has opengl 3 but it doesnt help, still invisible chars

I think your tablet's drivers need to expose the functionality to the emulator as well, otherwise it wouldn't work too. What tablet did you test it on?

im using note 10.1 2014, and what do you mean "expose the functionality to the emulator"?

solarmystic · 03-26-2014, 06:38 AM

@chitnhau

It means that although your tablet's hardware may support it intrinsically via the feature set, if your drivers don't tell the OS/PPSSPP that it has GLES 3.0 support, PPSSPP will never be able to use that functionality.

The only way to fix that situation is to update those drivers to the latest ones (if any), and on Android, I don't think it's as simple as doing it on the PC with an Intel/AMD/NVIDIA graphics card. Usually it involves updating the entire OS version/firmware to a newer one. I might be wrong on this, though.

**TheDax** · (This post was last modified: 03-26-2014 06:50 AM by TheDax.)

You're pretty much correct. If it's like Linux, drivers can be either statically linked into the kernel itself, meaning an entire OS upgrade would be required for non-custom ROMs, or included as modules, but these drivers tend to be proprietary and closed source on Android (they are on a PC too, but you have the freedom of upgrading them or downgrading them whenever you like, on Android, you do not if you're not rooted), so there's not really an easy avenue of upgrading them like you can on a PC.

zid10 · 03-26-2014, 06:50 AM

Would samsung galaxy tab 3.0 support what our phone is missing to run the game smoothly?

I am enjoying the game now in pc but I couldn't carry it around..too bad... And the bgm sounds like lagging and it's annoying..

chitnhau · 03-26-2014, 10:03 AM

(03-26-2014 06:38 AM)solarmystic Wrote: @chitnhau

It means that although your tablet's hardware may support it intrinsically via the feature set, if your drivers don't tell the OS/PPSSPP that it has GLES 3.0 support, PPSSPP will never be able to use that functionality.

The only way to fix that situation is to update those drivers to the latest ones (if any), and on Android, I don't think it's as simple as doing it on the PC with an Intel/AMD/NVIDIA graphics card. Usually it involves updating the entire OS version/firmware to a newer one. I might be wrong on this, though.

thanks, understood now. Hope i can play it when upgrading to 4.4 (my tablet is still in 4.3) and i'll notice this situation. i really love this game

Zyphr · 03-28-2014, 06:47 PM

I'm glad to see that the invisible models/text was fixed, but it seems this game is going to be fully playable without a fight! I haven't seen anyone anywhere mention these issues, so I figured I'd put them in the spotlight.
I'm using the ppsspp 0.9.8 build, with the US copy of Jeanne D'Arc. First up is the FMVs. The sound lags about a second or 2 behind the animation. Otherwise, it's great. Onto bigger issues, outside of the cutscenes, the FPS drops sharply. Frameskip doesn't seem to do much, and in battles, it's unbearble, making the game pretty much un-playable. Another big issue that hurts the experience pretty badly is the fact that the text is unformatted. I've never ran across this before with any other emulator or game, but whether it's dialogue or not, text either runs on into other text or icons(i.e. battle tutorials/menus, cutscene skip) or words run on to other lines, without proper line breaks.(i.e. Dialogue boxes) I know I'm not the only one eagerly waiting for the day this game becomes fully playable, so I figured I'd shed some light onto these game-breaking issues. Will post screenshots if requested.