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Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
06-09-2013, 01:43 AM
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Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
I see that there are many improvement but not in the performance ^_^ .. project diva and many more games are now slow on our smartphone ..
I dont ask for ETA'S .. I just want to ask ,, what is the version of ppsspp that u will do to improve the performance on our smartphone ??
maybe 0.9 ?? 1.0 ?? Big Grin
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PC User doesnt have to paid but ppsspp runs perfectly ^_^
Android user paid for it ( ppsspp gold ) but ppsspp still slow .. ^_^
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Henrik ? are u gonna do multicore support ? if yes ,, what version of ppsspp that u're planing to do it ?? ^_^ Smile
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06-09-2013, 04:54 AM (This post was last modified: 06-09-2013 04:54 AM by xsacha.)
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
Of course PC users have no trouble with performance because their hardware is roughly 5-20x faster.

Making this console run well on mobile phones is very difficult and time-consuming.

Dual-core support won't help much. It'll just push audio to a second core. The GPU is the main bottleneck right now for any game that you have difficulty playing.
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06-09-2013, 05:50 AM
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
(06-09-2013 04:54 AM)xsacha Wrote:  Of course PC users have no trouble with performance because their hardware is roughly 5-20x faster.

Making this console run well on mobile phones is very difficult and time-consuming.

Dual-core support won't help much. It'll just push audio to a second core. The GPU is the main bottleneck right now for any game that you have difficulty playing.

time-consuming like what ? 2 years ?? 3 years ?? :3 haha ..

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06-09-2013, 05:54 AM
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
I paid for it with my slow android (slow phone i got) but i still used pc one (a laptor) Big Grin

Maybe i grateful if my android can play a harvest moon game with 60 vsp XD
(still used laptor though)

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06-09-2013, 06:48 AM
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
BTW the gold version and free version of ppsspp for android are the same, the gold version was made so that you could donate to the hardworking developers
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06-09-2013, 07:49 AM
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
ya i don't see any speed improvements coming to android yet like the past(JIT etc.) .....not sure about this but maybe the idea is to sort out pc first then... andriod wud be nice as i would love to replace wonkie psp2000

compatibility then speed ?

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06-09-2013, 09:42 AM (This post was last modified: 06-09-2013 09:51 AM by Merivex.)
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
(06-09-2013 05:54 AM)Ritori Wrote:  I paid for it with my slow android (slow phone i got) but i still used pc one (a laptor) Big Grin

Maybe i grateful if my android can play a harvest moon game with 60 vsp XD
(still used laptor though)

haha ... u're lucky because u have a PC(me too) ^^ .. but how about the people tht doesnt have PC ? ^_^

(06-09-2013 06:48 AM)supaman Wrote:  BTW the gold version and free version of ppsspp for android are the same, the gold version was made so that you could donate to the hardworking developers

Yes I know that Tongue hehe .. but I didnt purchase it .. I only buy a 100% working emulator .. because I dont buy a beta cake :3 hihihi .. I only buy a cake that can be fully eaten ^_^

(06-09-2013 07:49 AM)hsark Wrote:  compatibility then speed ?

Maybe ^_^ ..

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06-09-2013, 10:31 AM
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
For me i notice som speed improvement
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06-09-2013, 11:10 AM
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
(06-09-2013 10:31 AM)slamandar Wrote:  For me i notice som speed improvement

really ? I didnt notice it at all .. project diva extend is now slow .. in past ,, project diva get 60VPS and never had lag issues ^_^

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06-09-2013, 12:07 PM
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
(06-09-2013 11:10 AM)Merivex Wrote:  
(06-09-2013 10:31 AM)slamandar Wrote:  For me i notice som speed improvement

really ? I didnt notice it at all .. project diva extend is now slow .. in past ,, project diva get 60VPS and never had lag issues ^_^

Yea it became more slow that before
when in gameplay sometime emulator freezing only for sec*
(everyone who has this problem my know what happen next...)

At least we got save state Big Grin

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06-09-2013, 12:45 PM (This post was last modified: 06-09-2013 12:48 PM by Merivex.)
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
(06-09-2013 12:07 PM)Ritori Wrote:  
(06-09-2013 11:10 AM)Merivex Wrote:  
(06-09-2013 10:31 AM)slamandar Wrote:  For me i notice som speed improvement

really ? I didnt notice it at all .. project diva extend is now slow .. in past ,, project diva get 60VPS and never had lag issues ^_^

Yea it became more slow that before
when in gameplay sometime emulator freezing only for sec*
(everyone who has this problem my know what happen next...)

At least we got save state Big Grin

haha .. yupz .. u're right about the save state Smile .. frame skip is good .. but not working for all games .. Sad ..
and I'm really curios ... Samsung Galaxy S4 Octa Core(Mine) is far more better than the xperia play(Mine also) .. but i didnt see many difference in performance between the two phones .. Huh
the only difference that i found is when I enable buffered rendering + anti aliasing ,, Xperia Play become slow while samsung galaxy VPS drop a little bit(only sometimes)

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06-09-2013, 03:32 PM (This post was last modified: 06-09-2013 04:58 PM by Merivex.)
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
I Already Found the problem and now I got 60vps(some games) always Smile

How to make it fast ?
1. root ur samsung galaxy s4 OCTA CORE
2. in no frills cpu , set gorverner to performance
3. in ram manager pro , set it to hard gaming

See the attachment .. I resize the image using photoshop because I cant upload screenshot from the samsung galaxy s4 octa core due to the screenshot size : 1920x1080 :3 Tongue


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06-09-2013, 05:45 PM
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
(06-09-2013 03:32 PM)Merivex Wrote:  I Already Found the problem and now I got 60vps(some games) always Smile

How to make it fast ?
1. root ur samsung galaxy s4 OCTA CORE
2. in no frills cpu , set gorverner to performance
3. in ram manager pro , set it to hard gaming

See the attachment .. I resize the image using photoshop because I cant upload screenshot from the samsung galaxy s4 octa core due to the screenshot size : 1920x1080 :3 Tongue

If you fry up the cpu for using the performance governor I'll laugh for a good while.

-Samsung galaxy S3 International version - Android 4.4.2
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06-09-2013, 10:51 PM (This post was last modified: 06-09-2013 11:05 PM by Merivex.)
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
(06-09-2013 05:45 PM)kenny43 Wrote:  
(06-09-2013 03:32 PM)Merivex Wrote:  I Already Found the problem and now I got 60vps(some games) always Smile

How to make it fast ?
1. root ur samsung galaxy s4 OCTA CORE
2. in no frills cpu , set gorverner to performance
3. in ram manager pro , set it to hard gaming

See the attachment .. I resize the image using photoshop because I cant upload screenshot from the samsung galaxy s4 octa core due to the screenshot size : 1920x1080 :3 Tongue

If you fry up the cpu for using the performance governor I'll laugh for a good while.

haha .. u're right .. My device get really HOT(although I didnt overclock it) .. I just enjoy ppsspp for about 30 minutes then I underclock it to get the device cool down ^_^ ..

(06-09-2013 04:54 AM)xsacha Wrote:  Dual-core support won't help much. It'll just push audio to a second core. The GPU is the main bottleneck right now for any game that you have difficulty playing.

how about this .. make multicore support to get full speed without overclock our device to prevent CPU from fry up .. ^_^ ..

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06-10-2013, 12:08 AM
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RE: Henrik ,, Optimization for Android ??
It's because performance governor gets the cpu to the highest freq without going down, which means your device is up to 1.6Ghz and 2-4 cores without stop, so of course it would heat up.

And about multicore support, it's not very possible as it has been said before.. We're emulating a single core console, so it would very probably break many things, that's why sacha said as much they would push the audio to the second core which won't help so much (correct me if I'm wrong), not saying it's imposible though, just what I've read around here.

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