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[tiktakt0w]

Ok, let me settle this straight.

1)

You: "as I said before, its your money, go buy what you want, its not my loss anyway..."

Me: I'm not gonna buy anything. Have you forgotten that I was giving advice to OP?. I am perfectly happy with my MSI GE40.

2)

You: "what are you talking about? Im comparing a mobile APU to a moblie i3..."

Me: Can't you read? I clearly stated "Don't compare mobile i3 to APU's from AMD.". I find it fascinating that you just can't get the point that OP's friend is not gonna buy a Laptop.

3)

You: "and dont say Im comparing apples to oranges because theyre the same, both actualy has all you need to consider them APUs..."

Me: I never said that you were. I know full well that they are similarly categorized. And I know that mobile I3 is lacking graphics wise. That's why I said "don't compare MOBILE i3 to APU's from AMD".

And anybody in they're right mind would agree to me that If you currently own an i3 laptop, upgrading to an AMD APU wouldn't even be worthy of being called an upgrade if, it's for gaming.

4)

You: "I have no use for a dedicated GPU without HSA features..."

Me: alright. But OP' friend doesn't need that. With his budget (40-50k php), he can easily build a Monster rig.

5)

You: "cant go toe to toe with the 650 Ti? this isnt the llano generation anymore,while its true that iGPUs still cant match dedicated mid range to high end cards, the difference is no longer as big as you think... the only thing holding back kaveri is lack of dedicated and ultra fast RAM, then again youll argue that its not dedicated so it sucks so ill stop here...".

Me: You got something wrong there. Comparing Kaveri to current mid to high end cards is BS.

The difference is no longer as big as I think? Well sorry big guy, the difference is so big I don't even need to explain it further.

And why buy components that are being held back by something? Lol.

6)

You: "are you serious?, GTX 480 has such a horrible performance per watt, 190 vs 110 of the 650 Ti... the performance difference is too small to justify the power difference, and why buy an old card when the new lower middle class cards leaves both in the dust... while being cheaper as well..

Me. To be fair, the gtx 480 is VERY power hungry.
But the permance difference is huge. The Gtx 650ti is the same as the gtx 650ti boost, the latter, which is superior than the former, still can't match the old gtx 480 in terms of peformance. I merely included the gtx 480 in my previous post for comparison and I never told anybody to go for it and buy one.

And no, current lower middle class cards doesn't leave them both in the dust. The only thing that they are good at is less power consumption and being more expensive. Yes, you, yourself stated that cards are expensive here in the Phils. So why buy newer gen cards when you can get better value from previous generation? Especially here in this country where cards are freaking expensive? *grin*

7)

You: "once again, I need an APU for my future plans, which need mantle, HSA, and hUMA... laughable upgrade? well see soon enough once youre so called cutting edge CPU is no longer the dominant part of a PC system...

Me: yes, laughable, except if you are gonna get a dedicated GPU. Well, by now, I pretty much know that you won't be getting one. I will not even be recommending a Kaveri+Dedicated gpu system for gaming and no, I am no Intel nor Nvidia Fanboy coz I am very confident in recommending an fx8350+dedicated gpu system.

And I am not longing for a "dominant PC system". What I want is a system that handles my gaming needs. Begone you pc heirarchy monarch.

8)

You: "and one more thing, you seem to be under the impression that I'm recommending the APU for him... I'm not, I clearly stated above that that I recommend the APU for budget gaming...

Me: Contradiction much? Why even recommend something if you're not intending to recommend it in the first place? Things like that only adds confusion to new users in the forums.

Have a nice day.


P.S. To O.P. With that budget, your friend could easily get an i5 3570 for the processor and an AMD 7870 for the gpu. RAM's aren't that expensive. Stay away from 5400RPM HDD's. Try to get a faster one, 7200RPM Preferably. SSD's are damn expensive here in the Philippines. Avoid them in the meantime. Just don't go crazy in choosing an expensive motherboard and try not to get the fanciest of them desktop pc cases and you will be under 40k.

Have fun!