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Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - solarmystic - 08-24-2013 12:54 AM

I've decided to open up this thread because of the numerous "PPSSPP has stopped working" posts in that other thread from people with Intel Integrated Graphics.

Let me just make this clear.

To those of you with Intel Integrated Chipsets prior to the GMA 3000 and Intel HD series (plain HD Graphics/HD 2xxx/HD 3xxx/HD 4xxx/HD 5xxxx) on your laptop/desktop PC who wish to run PPSSPP on Windows.

It is not going to happen. All you'll get is a "PPSSPP has stopped working" message.

PPSSPP NEEDS your card/graphics chipset to be OpenGL 2.0 compliant (from Henrik's FAQ on the main webpage) and to also have the drivers that support it from Intel.

In fact, why don't I make your lives easier and list out the Intel Integrated Graphics Cards that DO support PPSSPP (OpenGL 2.0 compliant) with the correct drivers from Intel:-

(Get the latest drivers from Intel here.)

(Use GPUz to quickly identify the make and model of your Intel Integrated Graphics Card.)

Quote:Fourth generation:-
(Only OpenGL 2.0 support on Windows and OpenGL 2.1 support on Linux. Yep, Intel did it again.)

GMA 3000 (946GZ, Q963, Q965)
GMA X3000 (G965)
GMA X3500 (G35)
GMA X3100 (GL960, GLE960, GM965, GME965)

Fourth Generation:-
(OpenGL 2.1 support on Windows)

GMA 4500
GMA X4500
GMA X4500HD
GMA 4500MHD

Fifth Generation:-
(OpenGL 2.1 support on Windows)

HD Graphics

Sixth Generation:-
(OpenGL 3.1 support on Windows)

HD Graphics 2000
HD Graphics 3000
HD Graphics P3000

Seventh Generation:-
(OpenGL 4.0 support on Windows)

HD Graphics 2500
HD Graphics 4000
HD Graphics P4000
HD Graphics
HD Graphics 4200
HD Graphics 4400
HD Graphics 4600
HD Graphics 5000
Iris Graphics 5100
Iris Pro Graphics 5200


The following cards are NOT OpenGL 2.0 compliant on Windows (either through capability or the lack of driver support), and if you have a card from this list, you are out of luck:-

Quote:(Chipset names in parentheses)

First Generation:-
(Capable of OpenGL 1.1 and 1.2 only)

Intel740
752
3D graphics with Direct AGP (810, 810-DC100, 810E, 810E2, 815, 815E, 815G, 815EG)

Second generation (a.k.a Intel Extreme Graphics):-
(Capable of OpenGL 1.3 only)

Extreme Graphics (845G, 845GL, 845GV, 830M, 830MG)
Extreme Graphics 2 (865G, 865GV, 852GM, 852GME, 852GMV, 854, 855GM, 855GME)

Third generation:-
(These cards are capable of OpenGL 2.0 on Linux but only of OpenGL 1.3/1.4 on Windows. Yes, Intel in their infinite wisdom decided not to make drivers with 2.0 support for these cards on Windows)

GMA 900 (910GL, 915GL, 915GV, 915G, Mobile 915 Family)
GMA 950 (945GZ, 945GC, 945G, Mobile 945 Family)
GMA 3100 (Q33, Q35, G31, G33)
GMA 3150 (Atom D4xx, Atom D5xx, Atom N4xx, Atom N5xx)

So either upgrade your graphics card, or get a new computer if you want to run PPSSPP and have an Intel graphics chipset from the list above. Posting your issue on the ppsspp forums won't do you any good, since all we'll do is just point out that you have an unsupported chipset for OpenGL 2.0 on Windows and tell you to do the same thing anyway.

Thanks for reading.


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - GuilhermeGS2 - 08-24-2013 01:24 AM

I have the Intel GMA 3100 G33/G31. It really do not work. I want to install custom drivers with OpenGL 2.0 support, but I not found. I found a custom driver for Intel x3100, but I think is not my model, because I get error when I will install. This drive use codes of Intel HD Graphics drivers, and give much more performance on games. But have some issues, not is compatible with Aero theme and Windows Media Player.


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - cloud1250000 - 08-24-2013 02:50 AM

the integrated card in the eight gen can offer the same performance of some of the best dedicated card on laptop XD (look for 650M vs intel5000)


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - GuilhermeGS2 - 08-24-2013 03:18 AM

You mean the 650M (laptop) vs HD 5000 (desktop - Core i7), because the 650M (laptop) vs HD 5000 (laptop) have much difference. Smile


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - greatchicken - 08-24-2013 03:26 AM

AMD's got some nice options now tho! Might be time for me to upgrade the laptop. (Don't really mind right now tho, Samsung S2 handles the emulator quite well indeed...)

Just a question, did anyone test this on Hybrid Graphics or Optimus? (They tend to come with Intel 3000s)


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - solarmystic - 08-24-2013 03:35 AM

(08-24-2013 03:26 AM)greatchicken Wrote:  AMD's got some nice options now tho! Might be time for me to upgrade the laptop. (Don't really mind right now tho, Samsung S2 handles the emulator quite well indeed...)

Just a question, did anyone test this on Hybrid Graphics or Optimus?(They tend to come with Intel 3000s)

Those should do just fine. Either card (integrated or dedicated) can be used for PPSSPP, with better results for the dedicated card obviously. HD 3000 also works fine for PPSSPP.


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - Gurlok - 08-24-2013 06:38 AM

Thanks for this bunch of useful info, solarmystic. I'd say that this should be sticked as an important thread.


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - VIRGIN KLM - 08-24-2013 06:54 AM

(08-24-2013 01:24 AM)GuilhermeGS2 Wrote:  I have the Intel GMA 3100 G33/G31. It really do not work. I want to install custom drivers with OpenGL 2.0 support, but I not found. I found a custom driver for Intel x3100, but I think is not my model, because I get error when I will install. This drive use codes of Intel HD Graphics drivers, and give much more performance on games. But have some issues, not is compatible with Aero theme and Windows Media Player.
If I'm not wrong 3100 is the desktop version and x3100 is the laptop version. The only way to put OGL 2.1 to this is Linux.


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - Ritori - 08-24-2013 08:45 AM

This thread is good thing now I can avoid buying this kind of intel Big Grin
(i7 is the best right?)


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - Danyal Zia - 08-24-2013 09:41 AM

(08-24-2013 08:45 AM)Ritori Wrote:  This thread is good thing now I can avoid buying this kind of intel Big Grin
(i7 is the best right?)
i7 is the processor not Integrated Graphics Smile Yes, that's quite powerful CPU Wink


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - sfageas - 08-24-2013 01:32 PM

Good guide

Sticked


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - Ritori - 08-24-2013 02:13 PM

(08-24-2013 09:41 AM)Danyal Zia Wrote:  
(08-24-2013 08:45 AM)Ritori Wrote:  This thread is good thing now I can avoid buying this kind of intel Big Grin
(i7 is the best right?)
i7 is the processor not Integrated Graphics Smile Yes, that's quite powerful CPU Wink

I see thank, get confused there XD


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - aki21 - 08-25-2013 08:08 AM

same apply to my netbook,gma 3150 is the suck and really bad driver,but usefull to play some games with 2gb ram of course,hmm,"direct x where are you?"

to think linux can support opengl 2.0 on intel gma3150,does the spec make different?,can't we force gma3150(window) to run opengl 2.0?,can we change the window system to linux to get opengl 2.0?,

netbook spec:
1.66ghz
window 7 proffesional
intel graphic media accelarator 3150(modded sherry driver)
direct x9.0,direct x10?,direct x11
opengl 1.4/1.5
2gb ram
250 hdd

yeah i know it's a waste T.T


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - solarmystic - 08-25-2013 08:15 AM

(08-25-2013 08:08 AM)aki21 Wrote:  same apply to my netbook,gma 3150 is the suck and really bad driver,but usefull to play some games with 2gb ram of course,hmm,"direct x where are you?"

to think linux can support opengl 2.0 on intel gma3150,does the spec make different?,can't we force gma3150(window) to run opengl 2.0?,can we change the window system to linux to get opengl 2.0?,

It still won't make a difference, since the card needs to have OGL 2.1 support for full functionality in PPSSPP.


RE: Attention: Intel Integrated Graphics Owners on Windows. Read This. - aki21 - 08-25-2013 08:40 AM

is'nt it need as minimum is opengl 2.0 and not.2.1,gma x3100 have opengl 2.0 and it work right,but it not change the fact that my driver is the main factor right now,not to mention there's no new info about direct x version(except 360 port using direct x renderer)

no other choice than wait direct x,not sure about performance,but it will surely help people with "window has stopped working problem",some may resolve it by updating driver and some may not...intel make no sense.